The Pen is Dried, so Be a Eunuch

Eunuch is merely an ancient word, and today we use the word Gay or Homosexual.

“O Abu Huraira, the pen is dried as to what you are suited for. So be a eunuch for that reason or leave it alone.” [يا أبا هُرَيْرَةَ، جَفَّ القَلَمُ بِمَا أنتَ لاق فاخْتَصِ عَلى ذَلِكَ أوْ ذَرْ].

 

People are naturally born to be who they are, and Eunuch’s [Gay People] are no different. In ancient times their were both man made Eunuch’s and Natural Born Eunuch’s. Natural Eunuch have no desire for the opposite sex, in this case a male who has no desire for a women is said to be a Eunuch, and is not “male” by definition. The only difference from then and today is that Gay men take on both roles or not. In those day’s Eunuch’s took a passive roles, usually, that we know of. It wasn’t okay for a male[straight] to take a passive role, but it was okay for a male[straight] to have sex with a Eunuch who commonly took the passive role. Just tired of all these homophobes who use the bibles to target Gay People, especially when I or we don’t follow that dogma.

Man made Eunuch’s where castrated men, who were usually slaves or people who chose to be castrated.  Natural Eunuch’s had ALL their physical body parts which functioned, accept they were not attracted to women.
 

In ancient times it wasn’t the Gay People or Eunuch who practiced Pederasty, the Heterosexual men practiced Pederasty or sex with boys because boys where considered infeminate. Most Gay men today are not attracted to boy’s, that’s why they are Gay because Gay men are attracted to men, usually masculine men, not boys. Straight men today are attracted to femininity, and both young girls and boys are feminine, boys are feminine because they have not yet reached puberty.

Straight men are not less likely to commit some crime than Gay men, these religious fanatics going around saying Gay people want their Children is propaganda used to scare people. We all know it’s misleading propaganda, but their followers fall for those lies.

Quee r Sexuality and Identity in the Qur’an and Hadith

Bukhari, Authentic Traditions, Book LXII (Marriage), Chapter 8:

(13b) Narrated Abu Huraira: I said, “O Messenger of God, I am a young male, and I fear torment for my soul, but I do not find [or feel] that with which to marry a woman” [إنِّي رَجُلٌ شابٌّ وأنا أخافُ على نَفسِي العَنَتَ وَلا أجِدُ ما أتَزَوَّجُ بِهِ النِّساءَ ]. He remained silent, then I said the same thing again, and he remained silent, and I said the same thing again, and he remained silent, and then I said the same thing again. Then the Prophet of God, peace be upon him, said: “O Abu Huraira, the pen is dried as to what you are suited for. So be a eunuch for that reason or leave it alone.” [يا أبا هُرَيْرَةَ، جَفَّ القَلَمُ بِمَا أنتَ لاق فاخْتَصِ عَلى ذَلِكَ أوْ ذَرْ ].

If Muhammad’s answer to Abu Huraira is to make sense, then of course it must bear a relation to the statement Abu Huraira made. First we have to ask what kind of torment Abu Huraira feared for his soul? Muhammad Muhsin Khan, the translator of Bukhari into English, interpreted it as fear of committing illicit sexual intercourse. If that interpretation is correct, then we still have to determine what “illicit sexual intercourse” would mean for Abu Huraira. As a self-described “male,” two forms of sexual activity would be inadmissible and therefore the temptation to them would cause torment for his soul: the desire to be sexually passive with a man (known as ubnah أُبنَة) or the desire to commit adultery with a female. Yet, Abu Huraira [“the father of kittens”] seemed to hint at a solution to his dilemma when he said he did not “find” that which was required for marrying a woman. The Arabic word for “find” [وَجِدَ ] also has the meaning of “feel, sense”. If Abu Huraira’s statement meant he did not feel passion for women, then obviously he could not be fearing the temptation to adultery with women. In that case, only passive homosexuality was a danger. However, if he would not ever marry a woman, due to impotency with women or for any other reason, then he would not be acting as a male, but rather as a eunuch, in which case passive homosexuality would not be forbidden for him. But Muhammad cautions him that his identity, either as a eunuch or as a male, has already been determined by his Creator (“the pen is dried”), and he must figure it out which it is and live his life accordingly. If he ever intends to have sex with a woman (i.e. act as a male), then he must avoid passive homosexuality and get married. [ read more ]

 

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Here, then are textual references for long-term (in some cases life-long) homosexual relationships in the Greek texts.

Trial Proves Prop 8 is Discriminatory and Violates the 14th Amendment

To bad they blocked the taping of the trial.  I would have liked to see the pro-hate peoples excuses for prop 8.  Actually, they’re all the same excuses to target OTHER people they don’t like for religious fundamental reasons, but with a twist, so it doesn’t “appear” to be so hateful.  The bible is NOT “black and white” as some would have you to believe.  Many words in the English language don’t mean the same in various types of conversations.  In English we can use the word love as an example.  In English Love is used to mean all sorts of examples, but in old Greek there are different words when referring to various types of loving situations.   However, those new age bibles coming out these day’s have translations where they replaced words to help them with their bigotry, such as the word “homosexual” which didn’t even come to being until the 19th century.

The bible doesn’t condemn homosexual people, that is people who lack the desire for those of the opposite sex, or natural Eunuchs of it’s day.  Fundamentalist Christian’s like to use verses to target “homosexuals,” but the verses aren’t even talking about Homosexual or Gay people, it’s talking about Heterosexual men who take on passive roles when they play around, and in those day’s sex between two men was not a problem, the problem was when a heterosexual man who should have a wife play’s around with other men and takes a passive role.  It’s like prostitution, the bible doesn’t condemn prostitution, it only condemns the prostitution in temples, which targeted Pagans, or people of other faith’s.  The alleged “Sodom and Gomorrah” case isn’t even about Gay people, it’s about heterosexual rape on heterosexual men, not consenting sex between two people. It’s like when a prison inmate who is heterosexual rapes another inmate [common practice], and it was this that was condemned, not the Eunuch’s.

Why do these Christian’s put so much focus in hating the Gay Community when the bible condemns adultery, infidelity, children who curse their parents, liars, thieves, killers and the list goes on.  It would seem to me that the Church should be focusing on their own in-house issues of adultery and fornication which is rampant within their own church.  The same alleged verses used to condemn Gay people to death according to those Christian’s also condemns the adulterer and fornicator to death!

Clean your own house!

294 Pages To Equality « Prop 8 Trial Tracker

The AFER legal team has filed their summary of the Prop 8 trial. All 294 pages of it. Officially titled the Plaintiffs’ Proposed Findings of Fact and Conclusions of Law, the document lays out what the plaintiff’s believe they have proved and the findings that they believe are in order. Here’s the gist:

The trial proved that:

* Prop. 8 does irreparable harm to Americans
* Marriage has shed discriminatory restrictions over time
* Gay men and lesbians are entitled to the full protection of the 14th Amendment
* There is no good reason for Prop. 8’s denial of fundamental civil rights

Much of this information was laid out at the final courthouse press conference at the end of January. If you didn’t get a chance to see that, it is at the bottom of this post. [continued]

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AMA Opposes “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”

Why doesn’t alleged “Focus on the Family” focus on their own family and divorce!  They act like they own civil law!  Religion didn’t invent marriage, it’s a practice of civil law created by the Pagan people, not Christianity, Not Mormonism, and NOT Catholicism!  If they are so concerned about their religious Marriages, then they should take a better look at their HIGH RATE OF DIVORCE!

People should also understand that Civil Marriage is not Religious Marriage.  Religious institutions have a right to control their followers, but they DO NOT have a right to control the greater population, not even through votes rallied by their preachers to their followers telling them how to vote.

AMA opposes ‘don’t ask, don’t tell;’ says gay marriage bans contribute to health disparities

The American Medical Association on Tuesday voted to oppose the military’s ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ policy, and declared that gay marriage bans contribute to health disparities.

The nation’s largest doctors’ group stopped short of saying it would seek to overturn marriage bans, but its new stance angered conservative activists and provides a fresh boost to lobbying efforts by gay-rights advocates.

“It’s highly significant that the AMA as one of this country’s leading professional associations has taken a position on both of these issues,” said Rea Carey, executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, a Washington-based advocacy group.

The health disparities measure “in the long run, will certainly help efforts to win marriage equality,” Carey said.

Whether the AMA’s lobbying power will hasten efforts to overturn the ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ law remains to be seen. President Barack Obama has said he is working with congressional leaders to end the policy, and the AMA’s stance will likely help, although gay rights issues have been upstaged by Obama’s health care overhaul battle.

The AMA’s vote took place at the group’s interim policy-making meeting in Houston, a day after AMA delegates voted to affirm their support for health reform.

The health disparities policy is based on evidence showing that married couples are more likely to have health insurance, and that the uninsured have a high risk for “living sicker and dying younger,” said Dr. Peter Carmel, an AMA board member. [read more]

 

After Maine Gay Marriage Inaction, Bloggers Call for Boycott of DNC

Time to stand up and fight back people!  Wake  up!  Especially you gay people do may not want to get married at least fight for those of us who do!  We’re in this together, one fight doesn’t out weight another!  We must stand up and fight back! 

Remember your history, or at least learn something of it!  The church did not invent civil marriage, it’s an inherited Pagan practice of civil law of which all citizens should be treated equally!  Time to stop the church form imposing religious rule. 

They allege Gay Marriage is immoral, yet they disregard all their divorces which is a definitely immoral.  Gay Marriage is about love, and love is not immoral!

After Maine Gay Marriage Inaction, Bloggers Call for Boycott of DNC

John Aravosis and Joe Subday of AMERICAblog, two bloggers who frequently cover gay rights issues, have announced that they and a handful of other gay activists and liberal bloggers are organizing a boycott of the Democratic National Committee and Organizing for America (what has become of Obama’s campaign apparatus, now led by the DNC) until President Obama puts his political weight behind moving their key issues through Congress–namely, repeals of “don’t ask, don’t tell” and the Defense of Marriage Act, and passage of the Employment Non-Discrimination Act. [read more]

WWII Veteran Speaks for Gay Marriage

As a veteran I agree!  I during my time serving I know I served for Freedom, Justice and Equality for all people.  My service time didn’t excent to and conflict, but non the less I volunteered because I’m a patriot who believes in what the Statue of Liberty and the Constitution of the United States represent, and that includes the Gay community who deserve the same equal rights as any other American citizen.

My father also joined the military during WWII all while his brothers, sisters, and father were taken to concentration camps in northern California.  He faught in battles on the French Italian boarder helping our allies keep the Nazi’s at out of these countries for the cause of Freedom, Justice and  Equality for all.  His unit battalion the 442nd became the most decorated unit of all time, and he had to come home to see discrimination pushed on people by the likes or religious fanatic dogma emposing their religiuos laws on the rest of American society.

Keep your religious laws to you own community!  Civil laws belong to the greater people, and they are not their for  you to divide the country up piece by piece just because you may not like a specific group of people like the LGBT community and their friends.

We’ll probably have to start the draft because those same people who live in freed because of Our Soldiers and Veterans do not service to help fight for freedom and justice for all, but they take advantage to what our soldiers have done, and are doing right now.

Draft those conservatives children, and send them off to these wars, so they to will know what democracy is.

Philip Spooner VIDEO: WWII Veteran Makes Case For Gay Marriage

Philip Spooner is a lifetime Republican, World War II veteran and, to everyone’s surprise, a gay marriage supporter. The 86-year-old gave a heartfelt speech in support of gay marriage to Maine’s Judiciary Committee back in April, and the video has just now become an internet hit.

Spooner’s voice wavers often as he weaves his own life story into the speech, using his experience as a soldier as his main defense for gay marriage. He lists his accomplishments in the war, among them serving in Patton’s Third Army and carrying POWs back home, making it clear that he’s a true American — and according to Spooner, there’s nothing more American than fighting for equality. [see video]

Traditional Religious Marriage Practices vs Civil Marriage Laws

This is sick some tradition!  We’re in America now, it’s okay to release yourself from your traditions in a progressive society, especially if your harming other people with your dogmatic tradtions! 

It amazes me how these Christian’s hang on to their so called traditions in the name of their traditions!  These traditions should be abolished, they should get married on their own recognizance and the rest of use shouldn’t be forced to subsides their welfare needs.  We should all pay equal taxes, and if we pay equal taxes then we should all receive equal benefits, if we don’t receive equal  benefits then it’s called welfare, and this has been going on for far to long.  Just obolish this religious marriage traditon of taking on wives because it’s your religious tradition.

Besides, this world is to over crowded, theirs no need to have a religious marriage or “holy matrimony” with your children!  Sick!  They’ll throw any page of the bible at us to justify their needs.  They say it’s “gods” will!  Amazing!

What about those Mormons?

We need to Protect Civil Marriage from these religious social conservative who force their own religious traditional marriage practices on our civil laws and our constitutions, all while the rest of us have to subsidize their marriage practices.  Civil marriage should be granted to all loving committed couples under civil laws, not religious laws or these religious zealots will take our children for marriage to.

Girl ‘married’ at 8 says Alamo found her ‘cute’

A woman who said evangelist Tony Alamo “married” her when she was 8 years old told federal jurors Thursday that he sexually assaulted her repeatedly until she dodged security cameras and roving guards to escape from his compound in 2006.

Her testimony came after another former underage bride of Alamo said she “married” the pastor at 14 through hurried whispers during visiting hours at a federal prison. That woman later noted inside a Bible the date Alamo first forced her to have sex, but left the name blank out of fear Alamo would beat her.

Alamo, 74, is named in a 10-count indictment alleging he took young girls across state lines for sex. His lawyers said the girls were moved so they could do legitimate work for the ministry, and claim the government has targeted him. He has pleaded not guilty and could spend the rest of his life in prison if convicted.

Defense lawyers largely left the sex and underage marriage claims unchallenged, though they questioned witnesses’ memories and whether they had been coached by authorities. Several jurors appeared affected by the testimony, wiping at their red eyes. One man slowly shook his head “no” during particularly graphic testimony.

The 8-year-old bride, now 18, said Alamo groped her after their wedding and began having sex with her when she was a 9-year-old third-grader.

[Read the full story of this Evangelical Marriage]

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Keep Religion or Religious Views Out of Politics and Propositions Put Out for Votes!

I’m so glad that more people are seeing the truth and talking about it!

I’ve been saying people use the bible to attack gay’s for the past fifteen years, and it’s why religion should stay out of politics in America!  These Christian’s are not respecting our common understanding of “separation of church and state,” and many of them are trying to change our laws and our constitutions to favor their misinterpreted religious beliefs or in this day the New Age Bibles that are rewritten with words that didn’t even exists or have the same meaning during the time the bible was written in classical Greek or Aramaic.

It’s happened in California, first with fear tactics to get enough votes for Prop 8, and who knows how many lies the Mormons told the people on the other side of the phone during their phone banking the Mormon Fatwa.

CHINA’S REAL COMING OUT PARTY!

Many have said that the 2008 Olympics in Beijing were China’s coming out party to the world. I wanted to let you know about China’s real coming out party. This posting about China’s June gay pride parade in Shanghai is not meant to insult the Chinese nation or anyone else, it is actually meant to praise China for the advancement of social liberty and freedom seen this year in Shanghai. Although many out there can argue whether or not the existence of a LBGT (Lesbian Bisexual Gay Transgender) community in China is advancement, no one can argue with the fact that a community such as this receiving greater freedom and tolerance is a sign of the Chinese government loosening control over individual rights. I would like to put aside the issue of homosexuality itself for the moment and focus on the fight for homosexual rights as one among many fights for individual rights, which can be seen as a clear indicator of a nation’s progressiveness. This couldn’t be truer than in Shanghai this year, where they had a successful gay pride parade without even having an actual parade. Organizers are hoping to have a successful gay pride non-parade in Beijing in 2010. For those who think this is an underground event the government doesn’t really know about, they can find details of this year’s gay pride event in China’s state run media outlets. We can see here that the stories on Shanghai’s gay pride event in China’s controlled media are a show of pride by China itself.

[Read more; good read about China’s coming out, though, I hope they wake up about other issues]

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Civil Marriage is NOT traditional to the Church, those are lies

I don’t know why people think heterosexual marriage is “traditional” and homosexual marriage is “new?”

There are documents proving same-sex unions, and I’m sure many of those were destroyed when the church started to persecute just about everybody in order to take their property from them.

Civil marriage is for legal purposes, if  your need a religious marriage then have a religious marriage, but it doesn’t require a civil marriage.  It’s only evolved to the point that people get a civil marriage because it provides the two individual legal rights under civil laws.

I’ve hear so many silly arguments that claim and alleged that “marriage” is for heterosexual only.  Some say because of children, but what does a peace of paper have to do with having children?  Sure, if you need legal documents proving your heirs then yes, get a civil marriage because that’s what it was made for.

The Pagan people invented civil marriage, the church try’s to rewrite history alleging that it’s their invention when they only adopted the practice hundreds of years later.  It’s sole purpose is for civil law, not religious law, and it proved property rights and heirs.  This is the same way we use civil marriage today.  You don’t have to have children to get married, in fact many people get married and don’t want children or adopt because they can’t have any of their own, or just want to adopt because it’s the right thing to do.

Marriage was traditionally a marriage just by stating you were married because just to get married you don’t need a document to say it.  If you need a document to prove your relationship for legal purposes then you get a civil marriage license because it’s their to prove your property rights and heirs and today along with many other legal purposes.

The lies people use to attack the Gay community is traditionally a church practice and they’ve done a very good job of lying to the people in order to have some one to attack when they or the church needs people to attack.  Disregard your own indiscretions just attack Gay people, and that is the tradition of the church, it’s constant lies.

Some alleged it was Adam and eve, well in those day’s they didn’t civil office to get a marriage license because they didn’t need it.  They were married just by stating it, and they had nothing so they didn’t need any legal document like a civil marriage license to prove anything.

There all religious excuses and dogmatic views hiding the truth.

A Letter to the President from Joe Solmonese

June 15, 2009 2:27PM
Joe Solmonese

Ed. Note: This morning HRC President Joe Solmonese sent a letter to President Barack Obama responding to the administration’s brief that argues for the Defense of Marriage Act to be upheld in court.  The letter follows and is available in PDF:

June 15, 2009

President Barack H. Obama
The White House
1600 Pennsylvania Ave., NW
Washington, DC 20500

Dear Mr. President:

I have had the privilege of meeting you on several occasions, when visiting the White House in my capacity as president of the Human Rights Campaign, a civil rights organization representing millions of lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender people across this country.  You have welcomed me to the White House to express my community’s views on health care, employment discrimination, hate violence, the need for diversity on the bench, and other pressing issues.  Last week, when your administration filed a brief defending the constitutionality of the so-called “Defense of Marriage Act,”[1] I realized that although I and other LGBT leaders have introduced ourselves to you as policy makers, we clearly have not been heard, and seen, as what we also are: human beings whose lives, loves, and families are equal to yours.  I know this because this brief would not have seen the light of day if someone in your administration who truly recognized our humanity and equality had weighed in with you.

So on behalf of my organization and millions of LGBT people who are smarting in the aftermath of reading that brief, allow me to reintroduce us.   You might have heard of Del Martin and Phyllis Lyon. They waited 55 years for the state of California to recognize their legal right to marry.  When the California Supreme Court at last recognized that right, the octogenarians became the first couple to marry.  Del died after the couple had been legally married for only two months.  And about two months later, their fellow Californians voted for Proposition 8.

[Read more of Joes Solmonese Open Letter to the President on DOMA]

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Stop Defending DOMA!

I couldn’t believe he’s supporting DOMA, or at least his attorney is pushing in support of it.

I find it ironic that people who are against alleged “socialism” would support DOMA because it excludes the Gay Population.  Sounds like typical bigotry to me.  If you don’t like Social Security then you should be fighting against that, not supporting DOMA!

Since we have this social security system, then all American’s should benefit from it otherwise get rid of it completely. 

Gay people pay taxes, and they don’t get any breaks on it with their own family’s because they happen to be Gay.  Why should Gay people subsidize all these other peoples civil marriages, yet can’t have one themselves? 

Civil marriage is about property rights and heirs, it’s not about some religious dogma, so get over it!

Tell Obama and Holder: Stop defending the Defense of Marriage Act.

Tell Obama and Holder: Stop defending the Defense of Marriage Act.

They compared same-sex marriage to a marriage between an uncle and a niece. Or between two children.

No, we’re not talking about Rick Santorum. We’re talking about the Obama administration’s Justice Department. The brief the DOJ presented defending the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) in federal court was not just wrong. It was offensive. The New York Times called it “disturbing” in its lead editorial.

Rachel Maddow and Howard Dean discussed the issue on MSNBC on June 15. Take a look: [sign the petition]

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